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WebPanel => Installation => Topic started by: kandalf on February 28, 2022, 11:47:24 AM
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I will buy a new server I read on the official documentation that Centos 7 is the recommended version, we also have the centos 8 stream delayed or even Rocky Linux. This information is updated? Do you still recommend Centos 7?
When the Centos 7 reach the end of life it's possible to update for example to Centos Stream or I will need to create a new installation and migrate manually everything?
It's a little strange to install a OS with about 2 years of life, it's a lot of work to migrate websites and emails and everything related
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yes, centos 7 is still the most covered with all services while el8 is now also mostly all covered including cwp kernel.
So it's up to you about the version you want to select, note that el7 to el8 update is not possible, however, there is a cwp-to-cwp migration tool for account migration.
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yes, centos 7 is still the most covered with all services while el8 is now also mostly all covered including cwp kernel.
So it's up to you about the version you want to select, note that el7 to el8 update is not possible, however, there is a cwp-to-cwp migration tool for account migration.
But there are any relevant service that it not covered in el8? Or some known important bug?
It's a little annoying to buy a new server and know that in 2 years I will need to move everything from there.
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I read some where if your on centos 8 stream you cant migrate to any thing after that i moved to rocky linux 8 and every thing is working fine.
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I read some where if your on centos 8 stream you cant migrate to any thing after that i moved to rocky linux 8 and every thing is working fine.
I also read that and it's other reason that probably make me go for the centos 8 stream delayed
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i'm running Centos 8 Stream with Delayed repo. Seems fine so far.
What you actually should be looking out for is the type of virtualization that the server hosting company is using. Avoid OpenVZ servers because some features of CWP wont work on it.
Best ones if I'm not mistaken is Xen-HVM
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installed almalinux to test so far (short time) every thing seems fine also.
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Hello, i am new at this topic and did not want to start new thread on the same topic. I see that there is a CentOS 9 Stream and i see that there is this delayed repo. I have a fresh server installed (CentOS 9 Stream). What do you recommend to use, and ofc wanted to install CWP on it. Should i reinstall with another version of CentOS or..?
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CWP was not tested with CentOS 9 yet.
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I'm in the same boat. My current/last server was built Feb 2019 -- almost 3.5 years ago. That's the expected life of a webserver I build and use. I don't have time to mess around with wiping machines/migrating, etc. It's a big deal to create a new server, install CWP, configure everything, move the sites over, then transfer from one server to the other and shut the old server down.
I do this once every 3 1/2 to 4 years ONLY.
So that being said, I am hesitant to use the "recommended" CentOS 7 which is only supported to the end of 2024, which is only 2.5 years from now. I don't want to have to build/configure a new server ahead of schedule, just because my server OS went out-of-support!
I know ahead of time CentOS 7 only has 2.5 years of life left in it. So why install it on a brand-new bare metal server being built today?
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I tried moving everything to stream 8 new server. Big mistake. I eventually went back to the old server which I never shut down. I plan on staying with centos7 until they pull the plug. Hopefully by then, centos cwp will have a version that is 100% compatible with centos stream, or rocky, or any of the others. Like you, I dont have time for headaches. Having an out of the box ipv6 version of centos cwp would be nice. I know that is going to rile up moderators who will say that cwp already is ready for ipv6. "all you have to do is....yada yada yada"
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Well I am not able to wait until closer to the CentOS 7 support cutoff (Dec 2024) when CWP will be forced to pick a new "stable" OS to build upon.
One of my clients is paying for the new server -- so I have to pick an OS. But as I said, I want it to last 3-4 years. I don't like spending all my time messing with hardware and server stuff. That's not my main thing.
Namaste, can you elaborate on what problems you had when you tried to use their "Delayed Stream" branch of CentOS on your new server? They claim it's plenty stable. Is that not entirely true?
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Short version: We are already in the "red zone". Most people use a server for around 3 years before replacing it. CentOS 7 only has 2.5 years left in it.
This issue will become more urgent the closer we get to 2024 (the end of support for CentOS 7).
I hope CWP understands this fully. A solution needs to be found. Yesterday.
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I'm still running almalinux on cwp 8 also have rocky linux 8 on cwp 8 that i manage and both run sweet.
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Rockylinux SHOULD be a good option, at least on paper, if it's truly a clone/fork of CentOS. It should be the same or highly compatible with CWP.
Can anyone else recommend/vouch for Rockylinux?
I think I'd rather go that route, than mess with a terminally-ill, doomed OS like "CentOS 7" which is set to die in Dec 2024.
I'm building a VERY nice server (at least by my standards), spending over $2K, and I'll certainly want to use this server for more than 2.5 years.
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Rocky linux and almalinux both work good with cwp.
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Rocky linux and almalinux both work good with cwp.
I appreciate the suggestion, and it's probably the best option I've seen so far.
But I still want to ask --
Can anyone SECOND this recommendation? In this thread, only "Martins-phpbb" has recommended it. Surely someone else has tried Rockylinux and had a good/bad/in-between experience with it?
Thanks!
P.S. Here's a summary of this thread so far:
Martins-phpbb: RockyLinux or almalinux
Namaste: Just wait a year or two, see what CWP comes up with closer to the 2024 deadline
iraqiboy90: CentOS8-Stream-Delayed
Admin: crickets. Still CentOS 7 I guess? Even for a $5K server you can't/won't upgrade for 5+ years, despite CentOS 7 being dead-in-the-water in just 30 months?
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most servers run centos 7, next is centos 8 stream and cwp delayed, all works fully on them.
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As posted on this forum once you move to centos 8 stream you are stuck there.
Atleast with rocky or alma you can auto update from versions with out the need to reinstall.
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I need to post a correction -- CentOS 7 is end-of-life in JUNE 2024, not December as I assumed.
So it's even worse than I thought. Less than 24 more months of support, or life, left in CentOS 7 -- and that's currently the "recommended" or "official best" option according to the CWP project.
So I'm supposed to install an OS with a less-than-2-year life on my brand-new server, on which I spent $2.5K and likely won't ever be wiped during its expected 4 year lifespan? Not an option for me, or most people in my position.
CentOS Linux 7 will reach end of life on June 30, 2024, the same date that RHEL 7 enters the next vendor support phase: RHEL 7 Extended Lifecycle Support. After this date, CentOS 7 will no longer receive any security updates or bug fixes from Red Hat.
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Install alamlinux or rockylinux, install virtualization and then install both on vps servers.
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Based on the information provided, it's important to note that I cannot directly access external websites or forums. However, I can provide you with a general response to your query.
Regarding CentOS, as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, CentOS 7 was indeed the recommended version at the time. However, it's essential to consult the official documentation or the CentOS community to ensure you have the most up-to-date information on recommended versions.
When CentOS 7 reaches its end of life, the recommended approach would typically involve creating a new installation of the desired version (such as CentOS Stream) and manually migrating your websites, emails, and other related data. This process can require some work, but it ensures a smooth transition to the updated version.
To obtain the most accurate and current information regarding CentOS and its versions, I recommend visiting the CentOS official website or actively engaging with the CentOS community through their forum or mailing lists. They can provide you with the most relevant guidance for your specific scenario and requirements.
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My plan is a migration to AlmaLinux in May 2024 before CentOS 7.9 goes EOL. I hear it is broadly compatible with CWP, maybe with a few livable bugs or incompatibilities (but not as "rocky" as another distribution). I do not plan on going to CentOS 8 Stream, which is a one-way trip.
If I were starting a server fresh today, it would be AlmaLinux, no doubt.
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AlmaLinux 8.7 works great with CWP.
It's also done by the same company that does CloudLinux, which is paid, and recommended by CWP.
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i'm running Centos 8 Stream with Delayed repo. Seems fine so far.
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There is no CentOS 8, 9 , etc. They got rid of version number with CentOS when RH killed CentOS 8 early.
It's just CentOS Stream, which is a rolling beta version for RHEL.
The main problem with Stream, is once you are on it, there is no way off that beta version, other than to rebuild the server with a different OS.
With CentOS 7, AlmaLinux or Rocky 8.x, there is an upgrade path to 9.x down the road as soon as CWP releases a version fully compatible with it.