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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives

« on: January 13, 2026, 01:49:48 PM »

I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.

Where is the source of this information?
There is multiple affirmations like this made from you, but no source to confirm this.

And i doubt that is that answer, since the issue is clearly because of misconfigured server where the forum is - many times there is Nginx errors. And just look in how outdated and with MANY errors this installation of SMF have - you cannot even enter a user profile.

CWP isn't without flaws, but compared to other panels, CWP can be updated/customized better than others on the market I've tested.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.

Can you provide any example of what are you talking?
"customized" like what?

Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.

Your "help" was "But by all means move to cPanel...". I am quoting YOU.
Of course your help is turned down - not because you are the victim, but because you didn't provide any help really.

1. The source of that information is directly from CWP via a support ticket I submitted.
You can doubt whatever you want, but that is the answer I received form them.

Only real problem with the forums is an expired SSL.

2. There are many aspects from HTTP, PHP, ModSecurity, etc., but since you don't know, that shows you probably don't use CWP.

3. Yup. You are just a BS poster, @overseer and myself provide a majority of help here.
And I was talking about offering help to CWP also.

All you seem to be doing is posting hate without knowing how CWP really works via GUI and CLI.

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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives

« on: January 13, 2026, 12:38:04 PM »

CWP isn't without flaws, but compared to other panels, CWP can be updated/customized better than others on the market I've tested.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.

Just look at my PHP thread on updates.

I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.

But since you hate CWP so much, and like Ubuntu/Debian you can use your CloudPanel, and leave CWP...
Or use HestiaCP.
If you switch to either I would recommend using Debian for production use.
As using Ubuntu would be like using Fedora.

Neither uses ELx, and doesn't have some of the features of CWP.

It's as simple as that...

Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.

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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives

« on: January 12, 2026, 09:07:11 PM »

@kandalf
Yes, CWP is in life support. Not dead, but as many other projects, is in the end of the road. There is just routine updates, not new features or really updates at all. No support to new software, nothing...
Updates are provided "as a number" - no communication on what have changed, no changelog, nothing.
Yes, there is "latest update one day ago"... and thats it. For what we know, nothing changed besides the "latest update date".
Proof: https://control-webpanel.com/changelog (last update in 2024)


If you have a project that needs a panel, look for alternatives - there are many other free and commercial panels.


And for the "CWP evangelists", don't even bother be toxic and reply to this/me.
Anyone that talk about this in the community is faced with a "you are a cPanel envagelist" or "move to cPanel". Dudes... WE ARE ASKING LEGIT QUESTIONS! If we are starting a project, we (Community) need to know if is a good starting point or not.
That toxic answers just lead users to another panels, and THAT IS NOT GOOD for CWP. You guys are destroying the panel and not even realize that!

Stop posting hate, and you won't get 'toxic' answers...

CWP 0.9.8.1220 came out on 2025-12-29 with minor bug fixes and updates to the latest PHP 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3 versions.

Fine, then PLEASE STOP using CWP and go use another panel...

BYE FELICIA...

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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives

« on: January 12, 2026, 09:03:24 PM »

I've been working with CWP for years. We get some updates but zero communication and no roadmap. Critical security issues aren't communicated.

ionCube already supports PHP 8.4 in production, but CWP doesn't. The forum is frequently down or unresponsive. Many signs point to CWP not being in good shape. For example, "New Backup" has been in beta for at least 4 years.

It's hard to attract new paying customers with this approach.

Many panels don't publish about their 'Critical security' issues.

I haven't seen cPanel do it (Not that I pay much attention to them), but neither does CyberPanel (Even though reports of the flaws get posted all over, CyberPanel doesn't respond), ApisCP, and many others I have tried & used.

The main problem with PHP 8.4, if you use it, it PHP dropped some libraries from being built-in, and the 3rd part PECL picked them up.
Which is a royal pain in the butt now. These included IMAP and Mailparse, which are commonly used.

I'm hoping CWP is working on EL10, but they seem stuck on still supporting Past EOL OS's like CentOS 7.
As long as they do this, CWP is going to be stuck, as EL9 and even EL10 operate differently from CentOS 7 / EL8.
Even EL10 operate differently than EL9 with different security.

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CSF Firewall / Re: Should we update CSF to V15??

« on: January 12, 2026, 08:50:56 PM »

CWP doesn't control CSF, never has, never will.

Which is good & bad about CWP, they allow you to choose and customize most of the features (Apache, PHP, ModSecurity, Nginx, MariaDB, etc.)

But we are trying to get them to incorporate this fork into CWP, instead of the dead one.

Then there are also CSF forks, that people have made paid, against the GPL. That some people may choose as well.

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Installation / Re: How I upgrade the MariaDB 10.5 to 10.6?

« on: January 12, 2026, 02:37:31 AM »

From Insan3Us post they have already corrupted the CWP & the server by trying to remove MariaDB and re-install it like it's a bare EL9 server.

I hope that isn't the case, and they use the link above.

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Installation / Re: How I upgrade the MariaDB 10.5 to 10.6?

« on: January 12, 2026, 12:57:19 AM »

That link you posted doesn't work with CWP and will just corrupt the server.

It's for installation on a base EL9 system without a control panel.

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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives

« on: January 12, 2026, 12:52:04 AM »

Here we go Again...

CWP is NOT 'dead'.

Last updated came out on 2025-12-29

The last Apache update from them was 2.4.65, and you can manually update to 2.4.66 easily.

You can also upgrade manually to PHP 8.4 and 8.5 using the info at AlphaGNU.

But ionCube doesn't work with PHP 8.5 as of yet, it's still in beta.
https://www.ioncube.com/loaders.php

But by all means move to cPanel...

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CSF Firewall / Re: Should we update CSF to V15??

« on: January 12, 2026, 12:47:04 AM »

It's NOT a 'workaround', it's an upgrade path.

The original CSF made by Way to the Web Ltd. is dead.
Hence why you haven't been getting updates.

Not sure where you have been, but that was announced and posted all over the place last year.

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CSF Firewall / Re: Continued CWP support with new CSF fork

« on: January 07, 2026, 11:23:04 PM »

Yes, you should be able to go from the closed source (14.24) to the open source version (15+).

Starburst, have you at all dabbled with the other major CSF fork, Sentinel Firewall?
https://github.com/sentinelfirewall/sentinel

1. Yes, you can follow the upgrade guide on the KB to go from 14.24 to 15.08

2. Yea, Sentinel is being maintained by some cPanel admins, and is their primary focus.
As such, they aren't too worried about other panels or OS'es.
Where I asked Aetherinox to support AL10.
Also gave him a CWPpro license for testing.

Thanks that worked! Is there any thing we need to do to enable auto updating from the new source or just keep it manual?

Thanks

The new update re-enables auto update checks, as long as those config files where unlocked when CSF was updated.

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CSF Firewall / Re: Continued CWP support with new CSF fork

« on: January 06, 2026, 09:55:27 PM »

A developer named Aetherinox has forked CSF, and is actively supporting it, along with updates for CWP.

Please see the following KB, if you would like to update to this new fork and version:

https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/aetherinox-csf-firewall-update-to-v15-09/

If you can, please support him also.

I am currently running v14.24 - can i go straight to this?

Thanks

Yes, you can.
But if you have any CSF files locked with chattr, you just need to unlock them first.

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CSF Firewall / Re: Continued CWP support with new CSF fork

« on: January 06, 2026, 09:54:48 PM »

A developer named Aetherinox has forked CSF, and is actively supporting it, along with updates for CWP.

Please see the following KB, if you would like to update to this new fork and version:

https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/aetherinox-csf-firewall-update-to-v15-09/

If you can, please support him also.

Everything went fine up to the last csf -v:

[root@viking csf]# csf -v
                                                                       
    INFO               ConfigServer Security & Firewall     
                       v15.08 (CentOS Web Panel)
                       License: Invalid
                       Stable Channel | Insiders Channel


  LOCALINPUT  all opt    in !lo out *  ::/0  -> ::/0  
    INFO               Initializing csfpost script /usr/local/csf/bin/csfpost.sh
    INFO               CSF web interface disabled; skipping.

Yea, CWP doesn't understand color codes. :/
This is fixed in 15.09 when it comes out.

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CSF Firewall / Re: Continued CWP support with new CSF fork

« on: January 06, 2026, 09:53:35 PM »

Yes, you should be able to go from the closed source (14.24) to the open source version (15+).

Starburst, have you at all dabbled with the other major CSF fork, Sentinel Firewall?
https://github.com/sentinelfirewall/sentinel

1. Yes, you can follow the upgrade guide on the KB to go from 14.24 to 15.08

2. Yea, Sentinel is being maintained by some cPanel admins, and is their primary focus.
As such, they aren't too worried about other panels or OS'es.
Where I asked Aetherinox to support AL10.
Also gave him a CWPpro license for testing.

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E-Mail / Re: RoundCube 1.5.12 Released

« on: December 29, 2025, 10:10:29 AM »

At https://forum.centos-webpanel.com/php-selector/cant-install-any-alt-php-version/msg52891/?topicseen#msg52891

You listed different repos installed on the server, and having a problem with PHP.

So what repos are really installed?

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E-Mail / Re: RoundCube 1.5.12 Released

« on: December 28, 2025, 11:02:06 PM »

What OS & PHP version are you running?

If that is the server running those other .repos you where asking about, that could be the cause also.