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Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« on: December 11, 2020, 01:56:37 PM »
I apologize if this has been said somewhere, I looked over the CWP website and the forums and I may have missed it,

Redhat has announced the discontinuation of CentOS pretty much,

https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux

https://www.change.org/p/centos-governing-board-do-not-destroy-centos-by-using-it-as-a-rhel-upstream


Is there a direction that CWP has decided upon at this time?


What are everyone's thoughts on this?

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2020, 08:16:12 PM »
well don't worry we'll support centos 8 stream

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2020, 08:47:32 PM »
CWP works on CentOS Stream 8 OK.

CentOS 7 isn't fully EOL until 2024.

CloudLinux is talking about releasing a free version also based on RHEL.

Go figure all this happened 2 weeks after we migrated over to CentOS 8.
Which just had a major dot release from 8.2.2004 to 8.3.2003.

This isn't the first time RedHat has done this.
RedHat use to be a free version of Linux, then I think back in 2002 they went paid, and release Fedora as the free version.
Or you could use Mandrake, which went to some other name due to some stupid lawsuit.

Only constant with Free Linux distros has been FreeBSD. All others have come and gone.

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2020, 09:39:45 PM »
well don't worry we'll support centos 8 stream

Awesome to hear that, I wonder how stable Centos Stream will wind up being.



CWP works on CentOS Stream 8 OK.

CentOS 7 isn't fully EOL until 2024.

CloudLinux is talking about releasing a free version also based on RHEL.

Go figure all this happened 2 weeks after we migrated over to CentOS 8.
Which just had a major dot release from 8.2.2004 to 8.3.2003.

This isn't the first time RedHat has done this.
RedHat use to be a free version of Linux, then I think back in 2002 they went paid, and release Fedora as the free version.
Or you could use Mandrake, which went to some other name due to some stupid lawsuit.

Only constant with Free Linux distros has been FreeBSD. All others have come and gone.

I had just switched everything over to CentOS 8 also.

As for the constant Free, I've been using Debian on my personal stuff since the late 90's...

And I do remember when Redhat was free.

https://rockylinux.org/ is hopefully coming out sooner than later, From the founder of CentOS.


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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2020, 10:31:21 PM »
well don't worry we'll support centos 8 stream

Awesome to hear that, I wonder how stable Centos Stream will wind up being.





I had just switched everything over to CentOS 8 also.

As for the constant Free, I've been using Debian on my personal stuff since the late 90's...

And I do remember when Redhat was free.

https://rockylinux.org/ is hopefully coming out sooner than later, From the founder of CentOS.

Yea, Rocky Linux just announced their start when RedHat announced CentOS. So did CloudLinux, which has a leg up, since they already have a modified version of RedHat.

Knew something was gonna happen when IBM bought RedHat, but thought it would stay there.

With how long FreeBSD has been around, you would think it would have a control panel other than Webmin though.
Plesk and ISPConfig supports Debian/Ubuntu, but cPanel only supports CentOS. So it's going to be interesting.

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2020, 02:01:19 PM »
Stream rolling release are targeted to the user who are in need to latest features including security and performance, there is no reason to fear as dependencies and other thing will be taken care by us.

Rolling release is the future.

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2020, 08:36:54 PM »
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Yea, Rocky Linux just announced their start when RedHat announced CentOS. So did CloudLinux, which has a leg up, since they already have a modified version of RedHat.



cloudlinux is not an easy install.  There are lots of steps to get it up and running.  Linode, DO, Vultr etc etc do not offer cloudlinux as a standard VPS o/s. 
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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2020, 09:37:34 PM »

cloudlinux is not an easy install.  There are lots of steps to get it up and running.  Linode, DO, Vultr etc etc do not offer cloudlinux as a standard VPS o/s.

But allot do other Custom ISO uploads like DO, Vultr, etc.
Vultr offers both CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream currently, besides the above.

From what I've heard they are waiting and seeing what happens.

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2020, 10:21:23 PM »
Forget Vultr.  I tried them once and their system crashed and I lost everything 3 days after I signed up and got my server running.  they offered no explanations or apologies.  I think they did offer a $10 credit for the inconvenience they caused.   
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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2020, 11:38:43 PM »
I run 2 Cloudlinux WHM/cPanel servers. One command was all it needed to do the conversion from CentOS 7, plus the licence keys.
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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2020, 11:58:54 AM »
I run 2 Cloudlinux WHM/cPanel servers. One command was all it needed to do the conversion from CentOS 7, plus the licence keys.

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Re: Now that CentOS is on a dead end path...
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2020, 11:13:31 AM »
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