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CWP centos7 to CWP Almalinux 9 Migration Planned
« on: November 25, 2025, 04:16:14 PM »
Hi,
I am finally planning a migration from centos7 to a new server running hopefully AlmaLinux OS 9

But i read many posts on here saying that the automatic migration is not working on AL9, is that still the case?

I could go to AlmaLinux 8, but the EOL is only in 3 years, and i do not wish to migrate again so soon.

Also are there any news about AL10?

Thanks

Alex

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Re: CWP centos7 to CWP Almalinux 9 Migration Planned
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2025, 06:16:41 PM »
I just moved my last holdout legacy CentOS 7 system over to AL8. A couple of previous servers were no problem to use the CWP Migration feature to move them from CentOS 7 based systems to AlmaLinux 8. But this last system was a stubborn beast so I had to manually migrate it -- but now I know how to move up to AlmaLinux manually, so if you had to you could manually migrate to AL9. But by far the easiest route is to migrate to AL8 using CWP Migration, then at a later date ELevate to AL9.

As you have heard, CWP is in beta for EL9 systems and one thing that is clearly broken is the CWP Migration API under AL9. So you can't migrate using their toolset from CentOS 7 to AL9. My recommendation is to take the intermediary step of going to AL8 which then has a clear path forward to AL9 or AL10 when the time comes.

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2025, 08:16:13 PM »
No news about AL10.

I've tried a couple other control panels that say they 'support' AL10.
But they are all flaky.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2025, 10:19:00 AM »
Doing the ELevate process on a production server scares me a bit, i have never done it (in the past i always have setup a new server with a newer OS every 6-8 years and migrated the sites/emails from one server to the other)

Right now i have been stagnating on Centos7, paying for the extended support, because i'm not sure if i should wait for AL9 or go to AL8 and again in 3-4 years do an other migration...

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2025, 10:34:19 AM »
Doing the ELevate process on a production server scares me a bit, i have never done it (in the past i always have setup a new server with a newer OS every 6-8 years and migrated the sites/emails from one server to the other)

Right now i have been stagnating on Centos7, paying for the extended support, because i'm not sure if i should wait for AL9 or go to AL8 and again in 3-4 years do an other migration...

It's better to setup a new server.
ELevate could leave some ghosts in the system.

AL8 is good with security updates until 2029-05-31

AL9 is active until 2027-05-31, with security updates until 2032-05-31

And AL10, IF CWP version ever gets that version going, is active until 2030-05-31, and security updates until 2035-05-31

https://wiki.almalinux.org/release-notes/

Seems like CWP main problem is they are still trying to support the older obsolete OS'es like CentOS 7 and PHP versions.
That seems to be holding back the needed development for the new OS'es that is needed.

They need to kill CentOS 7 support, it's been long enough past EOL and work on AL9 and AL10.

Other control panels have done this, and some have AL10 versions out or coming out soon.
While CWP is stuck on CentOS 7 and AL8.

[End of rant, I apologize]

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2025, 02:11:22 PM »
Amen brother, preach it!

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2025, 12:03:58 AM »
Was just informed CWP will not support AL9 any time soon, and does NOT even support MariaDB 10.11 in a rude message from Igor...

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2025, 03:13:30 PM »
I guess we need to read the warning on the tin:
https://control-webpanel.com/installation-instructions#step2
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The best option in 2024 is still the AlmaLinux 8.
AlmaLinux 9 has some missing features and PHP versions are limited to PHP 7.4 or higher.  *EL9 is in beta stage

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Re: CWP centos7 to CWP Almalinux 9 Migration Planned
« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:06:54 AM »
What is funny, is everything was working before the upgrade to AL 9.7.

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« Reply #9 on: Today at 08:28:02 AM »
I guess we need to read the warning on the tin:
https://control-webpanel.com/installation-instructions#step2
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The best option in 2024 is still the AlmaLinux 8.
AlmaLinux 9 has some missing features and PHP versions are limited to PHP 7.4 or higher.  *EL9 is in beta stage

Yeah i did see that, but since we are almost in 2026 i was hoping for AL9 to be out of beta... Guess not...

Since from what i understand some of you are actually running AL9, is the migration the only broken thing?

Can you "manually" migrate an account by transfering a backup and restoring it?

Or do you need to do a "full manual" restore? (copy files, db, recreate settings, etc)

(I have some account that have like 200ftp accounts inside, so i would prefer not having to manually recreate those things)

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Re: CWP centos7 to CWP Almalinux 9 Migration Planned
« Reply #10 on: Today at 11:57:45 AM »
I have done a manual migration from CentOS 7 to AlmaLinux 8 -- a manual migration to AL9 should be similar. Essentially, you do a DB dump of ALL DB, on the receiving server manually create the matching accounts (you don't need to setup any add-on domains or subdomains). Then you rsync over /home and /var/vmail (and possibly any folders you want such as named, csf and nginx vhost confs). Then you restore all the DB in one go -- this will bring in the root_cwp DB that has domains & subdomains. The roundcube DB will have all the settings for webmail, and the postfix DB will have all the account hashes. Overall not too painful.

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 04:14:46 PM »
Was just informed CWP will not support AL9 any time soon, and does NOT even support MariaDB 10.11 in a rude message from Igor...

Hello community, please excuse my Google Translate-assisted English.
I have several servers with paid licenses.
I like this admin panel, but what Starburst reported has me worried about the future of this project.
It might just be my impression, but I feel that the development of this admin panel is progressing very slowly. I would love to hear an honest response from the developers of this great project.
I am willing to contribute financially if the slow progress is due to financial reasons.

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 05:02:24 PM »
I have been with CWP for 5 years after previously being with cPanel/WHM for the previous 15 years. I like CWP and to me it has the right blend of features and functionality, without being bogged down with feature-itis as cPanel has become very cluttered, not to mention VERY expen$ive. I don't mind the slower pace of development, as it keeps things stable & alive. I'm in it for the long haul and should be set till the end of the decade when I will re-assess the landscape at that time.

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 09:51:18 PM »
To be honest, I am going to be testing CyberPanel to see how it works on AL 9 and if it works on AL 10 yet.
And also see how it's ModSecurity work with changing the ruleset, and CSF 15.07.

The problem right now with CWP is they are still trying to support an EOL OS - CentOS 7
That is incompatible with packages in AL9 and AL10.

The newer versions of PHP also do not support it.