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Title: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: cHAp on August 06, 2025, 01:22:11 PM
Hello,

When can we expect PHP 8.4 to be available in CWP? I couldn't find an answer in the forum itself!

Best regards,
cHAp
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on August 06, 2025, 02:43:25 PM
Starburst maintains an "anti-changelog" about PHP versions currently available on CWP, and their current status vs. current releases of PHP. You could watch that thread for more details about PHP 8.4:
https://forum.centos-webpanel.com/php/anti-change-log/
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: cHAp on August 06, 2025, 02:57:22 PM
Thank You
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on August 06, 2025, 05:40:28 PM
I hope soon.

CPW have released 3 updates, and haven't even updated PHP 8.1, 8.2 or 8.3 yet.
And even I can't get an answer to this.

You can manually update PHP to 8.4 and just starting working on that KB article.
Let me verify the process, and I'll post a link when ready. Hopefully within 24 hours. Send Coke...  8)

Been busy with the ConfigServer FAQ Archive stuff on the KB. (Still a work in progress)
I'm hopeful he will release the code under GPL so it can continue to be developed.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on August 06, 2025, 09:49:54 PM
OMG...

PHP 8.4 isn't as easy to get compiled & installed as previous versions.
Not sure what they changed, but it keeps erroring.  :-\
And since this is a computer program, C4 found a problem it can't fix...  :o

But I am still working on it.  :o
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on August 07, 2025, 01:17:37 AM
We'll GoFundYou a case of Cokes...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on August 07, 2025, 03:31:05 AM
OK, got 1 way to work.

Surprisingly some extensions don't support PHP 8.4 yet like IMAP. Only has support up to 8.3.24.

But anyways...

https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/ (https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/)
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Martins-phpbb on August 07, 2025, 10:24:02 AM
OK, got 1 way to work.

Surprisingly some extensions don't support PHP 8.4 yet like IMAP. Only has support up to 8.3.24.

But anyways...

https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/ (https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/)

Went well buddy thankyou Can you do a KB article on getting a complete snapshot or back up of the server i have used a few tools but they seem to fail on me.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on August 07, 2025, 12:52:41 PM
Went well buddy thankyou Can you do a KB article on getting a complete snapshot or back up of the server i have used a few tools but they seem to fail on me.

That would be up to your provider on how to make a snapshot or backup.

Every provider is different in the way they do it.

Check their KB, they should have instructions.
If not, contact their support.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on August 08, 2025, 06:49:46 AM
@cyberspace

Could use some help, if you have time.

Got PHP 8.4 mostly working, but on AL9 with CWP 0.9.8.1210, when I try to install imap from pecl, I keep getting:

Quote
# pecl install imap
pecl/imap requires PHP (version >= 8.3.0), installed version is 8.0.30
No valid packages found
install failed

Quote
# php -v
PHP 8.4.11 (cli) (built: Aug  7 2025 02:36:15) (NTS)
Copyright (c) The PHP Group
Zend Engine v4.4.11, Copyright (c) Zend Technologies
    with the ionCube PHP Loader v14.4.1, Copyright (c) 2002-2025, by ionCube Ltd.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Purelaise on October 07, 2025, 09:21:01 AM
OK, got 1 way to work.

Surprisingly some extensions don't support PHP 8.4 yet like IMAP. Only has support up to 8.3.24.

But anyways...

https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/ (https://starburst.help/control-web-panel-cwp/control-web-panel-cwp-admin-tutorials/install-php-8-4-in-control-web-panel-cwp-on-almalinux-9-from-repos/)

Does this work for php-fpm as well? We are forced php-fpm server. Thank you
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on October 07, 2025, 01:41:19 PM
Not officially supported -- best to just wait for official CWP support for php-fpm 8.4. (There may be some hacky ways to get it going in the CLI, but you wouldn't have GUI control of it.)
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Biswashost on October 22, 2025, 09:11:56 AM
PHP 8.5 already loading but we still not getting 8.4. Our clients are asking for 8.4 but we don't have any answer to their questions.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 22, 2025, 09:35:30 AM
Probably a best bet looking for alternatives, since CWP appears a little death in new features...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on October 22, 2025, 01:56:18 PM
Are you the local cPanel evangelist? I'm tired of the Chicken Little weather reports about CWP -- "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 22, 2025, 02:27:30 PM
Are you the local cPanel evangelist? I'm tired of the Chicken Little weather reports about CWP -- "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

wow
Talk about toxic community...
what are you talking about,i don't even talk in cPanel or any other panel for that matter....

I just stating facts: CWP is out of date in updates to "new things". Am i stating something wrong?
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on October 23, 2025, 02:34:18 AM
I am only trying to defuse the seemingly weekly threads that keep popping up here decrying CWP as "dead" -- which is NOT true.

What features are you wanting? Feel free to suggest it to their comment/bug report form. They are responsive there. (I for one do not want CWP to become as bloated as WHM and cPanel have become -- in an effort to include more and more features, their interface has become increasingly cluttered and difficult to navigate for end users.)

If this is your hosting company: https://host.tugatech.com.pt -- then I only see cPanel or Plesk offered, not CWP.
And if this is your GitHub repository, you only have a cPanel script, nothing for CWP:
https://github.com/djprmf
Hence my question, are you a cPanel evangelist? Are you a CWP user at all?
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 23, 2025, 02:22:56 PM
So... when will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP? :)

And that is where you get it wrong. Just because i have a company that provides cPanel to my clients, doesn't mean im and against CWP. In fact, i use CWP in MANY servers (from my clients and myself, to the hundreds in fact), and i don't need to have a public record in what i have done to them.... im not counting stars in a github repo to increase my ego.


The fact that i am stating that CWP is lacking in updates, is a fact. Im not dumb to state that everything is OK, when you cannot provide me ONE SIMPLE THING about CWP that have been done in the last 1-2 years! That is a fact...
And me stating that is not being a cPanel envagelist... is stating something, because i use CWP, and as much as any other user - including YOU - i don't want it to be a dead panel.

Masking the lack of updates doesn't solve the issue. If you wanna live in your digital world of fantasies, and continue dreaming that CWP is updated, that is fine.... But don't mislead users when is a FACT that there is no update for a long time, not even for a recent version of PHP or a firewall since the end of CSF... (and you know what panel doesn't also have a Firewall? Yes, cPanel!)

And that leads to the point of this topic - when is PHP 8.4 be release? a version that is already "out of date" but CWP not even have.

Also: if your point to not be "toxic" is be tracking my work as that is a point to something... are you stalking me? =)

What features are you wanting? Feel free to suggest it to their comment/bug report form. They are responsive there. (I for one do not want CWP to become as bloated as WHM and cPanel have become -- in an effort to include more and more features, their interface has become increasingly cluttered and difficult to navigate for end users.)

Im sorry, but are we talking about the same panel/team?

The developers that don't even acknowledge a security issue -  and DO NOT still to this day confirm it publicly.
Or the developers that are asked about the CSF EOL, and the response is "we are aware" and nothing else?
Or maybe the developers that still didn't update the panel to support PHP 8.4, when is already a new version out and 8.4 is already outdated?

Please, stop me when i am being a "cpanel envagelist".
Please, prove me that i am wrong....
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on October 23, 2025, 02:53:48 PM
The fact that i am stating that CWP is lacking in updates, is a fact. Im not dumb to state that everything is OK, when you cannot provide me ONE SIMPLE THING about CWP that have been done in the last 1-2 years! That is a fact...
The major work over the last year has been to transition out of CentOS 7 EOL and provide full support for EL8 distributions, with both a delayed repository (for CentOS 8 Stream) and for stable EL8 versions. This lays the groundwork for full EL9 support (which is currently in beta). So it's a big path forward after Red Hat pulled the rug out from under everyone using CentOS. Given this is Enterprise Linux, I would rather have a truly stable, long term supported foundation rather than shiny new features.

And now ConfigServer and Way to the Web pulled the rug out from everyone by closing up shop. At least they left ConfigServer Firewall as GPLv3 code so work can continue on it.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 23, 2025, 03:08:06 PM
The major work over the last year has been to transition out of CentOS 7 EOL and provide full support for EL8 distributions, with both a delayed repository (for CentOS 8 Stream) and for stable EL8 versions. This lays the groundwork for full EL9 support (which is currently in beta). So it's a big path forward after Red Hat pulled the rug out from under everyone using CentOS. Given this is Enterprise Linux, I would rather have a truly stable, long term supported foundation rather than shiny new features.

Do you realize that that announcement from Red Hat was made.... in 2020, right? 5 years ago?
and we know that CentOS 7 was to be in EOL by 2024 since that time...

In fact, CWP announce that at the time: https://wiki.centos-webpanel.com/the-future-of-centos-stream-with-cwp

Your point then is: is OK, they are working to continue support CentOS 7 (that is EOL), and CentOS 8 (that is also EOL)... and now working to CentOS 9. At this point, we can expect support to CentOS Stream 9 when he reaches the EOL date in 2027...
You don't see the issue here? Really?

They are supporting something YEARS after the EOL arrive. That is not providing a good product... is lacking in updates.

And for "shine new features", if you consider support recent versions of PHP or a simple firewall - heck, even a simple CSF update to the GPL version - as a "shine new thing" in a system...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on October 23, 2025, 05:06:37 PM
cpanel envagelist (aka djprmf strokes) again with useless posts.

Since you do not use CWP, but cPanel why don't you go haunt their forums, or where you banned there for your BS..
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 23, 2025, 10:21:46 PM
cpanel envagelist (aka djprmf strokes) again with useless posts.

Since you do not use CWP, but cPanel why don't you go haunt their forums, or where you banned there for your BS..

Before make yourself look stupid, just read the thread....

https://forum.centos-webpanel.com/php/when-will-php-8-4-be-released-in-cwp/msg52603/#msg52603

Now, do you have any useful to say or will continue with pointless toxic behavior?
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on October 24, 2025, 12:27:52 AM
sure, I'll get right on that cpanel envagelist...

BTW How much are they paying you to troll other panels...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: 6Sense on October 24, 2025, 12:34:08 AM
@djprmf We can see your website sweet cheeks. Stock WP install with a downloaded theme, out of the box plugins and lack of responsive design for a mobile device.

No offence but just saying I think we've all got a pretty good idea how prolific your business enterprise is. Your tech knowledge is appreciated but you may choose to drop the big man attitude. I'm sure we'll all get along better then.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 24, 2025, 08:38:52 AM
Ok, and now... anyone can answer the topic?

Using insults and nonsense doesn't answer a single question point made here. If you cannot answer anything just don't reply. Im here answering the questions of the TOPIC - both of you are coming here to insult and talk BS... and i am the "bad guy"? :)

is simple: prove me wrong. Talk to the topic, answer. And don't hide under a "cpanel envagelist" - really, is a little cringe that the only thing to answer to things is that.... that is called deflect the point, not answering.

And @Starburst, you specific, continue to attack as "cpanel envangelist"... and now i ask you: you have a hosting company, and a datacenter with multiple servers/clients. But you only provide CWP to them. Lets say that CWP cease development tomorrow.
What do you do?
You company probalby will enter in panic mode. So... why provide multiple control panels is a "bad thing"? I provide cPanel, as i provide CWP, Hestia, and many more. That is not a bad thing, is called diversification. If anything happens to one panel, i can adjust to other. That is not called "cpanel eenvagelist", is called think about the needs of the clients and the future.
yes, because i have clients asking specificly for cPanel, as i have to Plesk, CWP and others... Is that dumb to provide a panel that the clients want? If you don't, that is on you, but is not how i do business.

And cPanel does A LOT of things bad. Do you think that i consider cPanel perfect? From a company that only think about money and increase the licences every year?

And @6Sense, what that have to do with anything? Are we here to talk about how i do business or discuss about CWP?
What i do and how I do it doesn't matter at all... im not comparing companies or websites, and that have nothing to do with the point. So... what is your point then?

So, is just silly to continue to deflect the questions and topics made.... kindle stop being a kid and think!

So: when will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on October 24, 2025, 03:35:34 PM
So go ahead and answer the question cpanel envangelist with a solution...

ALL you do is post BS troll posts...

So FOCUS...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 24, 2025, 03:57:28 PM
So go ahead and answer the question cpanel envangelist with a solution...

ALL you do is post BS troll posts...

So FOCUS...

You are the one asking me to answer my own question... And again, not answering.... Dude....
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on October 24, 2025, 04:09:22 PM

You are the one asking me to answer my own question... And again, not answering.... Dude....

cpanel envangelist I'm asking you to answer cHAp's original question they posted "When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?" with a solution.

But you can't , since you don't even use CWP.

You just post troll comments that are useless and everyone can see.

So again, FOCUS...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 24, 2025, 05:05:23 PM
Dude... You are asking me to answer a question that I make...

Stop being a kid and try increase your ego please with nonsense attacks... You are asking me to answer my own question? And asking for focus when are YOU that are reply with nonsense..

So yes kid, FOCUS!
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: Starburst on October 24, 2025, 09:03:17 PM
Hello,

When can we expect PHP 8.4 to be available in CWP? I couldn't find an answer in the forum itself!

Best regards,
cHAp

That is NOT your screenname cpanel envangelist, unless you are opening multiple profiles just to troll...

You know so much, answer that users question, and not with another troll post...
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: overseer on October 24, 2025, 09:35:47 PM
Your point then is: is OK, they are working to continue support CentOS 7 (that is EOL), and CentOS 8 (that is also EOL)... and now working to CentOS 9. At this point, we can expect support to CentOS Stream 9 when he reaches the EOL date in 2027...
I think the crux of the issue is that you are likely not a native English speaker and are missing some of the nuances of what we are writing. I chose my words very carefully. CentOS Stream 8 was the initial direction CWP was going in as the CentOS 7 EOL was approaching and so they created the delayed repositories. Then AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux 8 released and proved to be viable (and indeed BETTER than CentOS Stream) and so CWP pivoted to supporting and recommending those true EL8 distributions. Indeed, AlmaLinux 8 is now their recommended current stable base OS. I never said anything about CentOS Stream 9 because to me it is a no-trick pony -- a beta quality OS that has no business being the foundation for a server -- so it is irrelevant. True Enterprise Linux 9 releases (especially AlmaLinux 9) is what CWP is targeting and is currently in beta for. All of that do-si-do was caused by Red Hat and ate up quite a bit of time & developer resources (both for the binary compatible EL releases and CWP) until the landscape settled out to what it is today.
Title: Re: When will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP?
Post by: djprmf on October 24, 2025, 10:23:38 PM
So... when will PHP 8.4 be released in CWP? :)

Yes