@cgauthey
Sounds like you would be happier with another control panel then...
Show me 1 that does every one on your 2 posts.
But CWP does do things mentioned on your list.
You still have to be a sys admin to know how to work the admin panel and CLI to enable them.
@StarburstYou're still arguing about the wrong thing.
Nobody said CWP's servers stopped responding or that the version number can never change. A project can keep shipping the occasional update and still be effectively dead in terms of development, direction and communication.
And
“show me one panel that does everything” is just a strawman. Nobody asked for perfection. The question is whether CWP is keeping pace with the ecosystem and communicating where it's going.
You keep pointing at version numbers as proof of life.
A version number changing isn't development transparency.What changed?
What was fixed?
What CVEs were addressed?
What components were updated?
What's planned next?
What's deprecated?
What's supported?
What's broken?
Where is the roadmap?
If the answer is
“you need to be a sysadmin and use the CLI,” that's not an answer either. Being able to hack around limitations doesn't magically turn an unsupported or undocumented feature into a mature product.
And
“other panels have CVEs” is another distraction. Of course they do. The question is how quickly they respond, how they communicate it, and whether users can verify what was fixed.
As for:
Sounds like you would be happier with another control panel then...
That's probably the most telling response of all.
When legitimate criticism gets answered with
“leave if you don't like it” instead of facts, documentation and a roadmap, you're not actually defending the product. You're defending your attachment to it.
CWP may still run.
CWP may still have useful features.
CWP may still receive the occasional update.
But that's not the same thing as being an actively evolving, professionally communicated project.
A heartbeat isn't the same thing as being healthy.And after years of the same complaints stale/missing changelogs, unclear roadmap, slow adoption of current technologies, DIY workarounds and users repeatedly asking the same questions calling it
“not dead” because a build number changed is becoming a rather low bar.
If you think that's unfair, don't tell people to use another panel.
Show us what CWP has actually delivered, where it's going, and what the official team is committing to.That's the discussion.