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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by kandalf on January 13, 2026, 02:38:36 PM »1. The source of that information is directly from CWP via a support ticket I submitted.
You can doubt whatever you want, but that is the answer I received form them.
Only real problem with the forums is an expired SSL.
2. There are many aspects from HTTP, PHP, ModSecurity, etc., but since you don't know, that shows you probably don't use CWP.
3. Yup. You are just a BS poster, @overseer and myself provide a majority of help here.
And I was talking about offering help to CWP also.
All you seem to be doing is posting hate without knowing how CWP really works via GUI and CLI.
1. The forum is down frequently. I think it's mostly configuration or code issues. Try opening your profile https://forum.centos-webpanel.com/profile/?area=forumprofile - I get an error.
2. CWP automatically generates SSL certificates. How is it acceptable that this forum doesn't even have that configured?
I think we CWP users should demand more. I'd support them if they doubled the Pro version price, I think they should double the price of the Pro version if the problem is lack of money to pay the development team. But they need to show a more active role: update the website, have someone replying on the forum.
CWP is a great panel with lots of options and it's very cheap. But since it's closed source and the team isn't present, it's not evolving like other panels.
I currently have 7 servers running the Pro version of CWP. I don't want to move to another panel. In the past I used VestaCP and CWP was a step forward. I think this conversation is good, but we should stop attacking people for criticizing CWP. Someone from the CWP team should read this and reply. Everyone here wants the best for CWP.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by djprmf on January 13, 2026, 02:38:10 PM »1. The source of that information is directly from CWP via a support ticket I submitted.
You can doubt whatever you want, but that is the answer I received form them.
Source: you. Right...
And about ALL the others things that you said, like the panels without disclosures and changelogs?
Only real problem with the forums is an expired SSL.
What SSL?
SSL is fine.. and is active... no issues are related with that.
And again, you are misleading the point and trying to cover this with another thing without any context...
There is MULTIPLE ISSUES accessing the forum, several times per day, for months. How can you say that is "just SSL", when ANYONE can see that is not?
An example: https://forum.centos-webpanel.com/profile/?u=24987
Can you enter? No, because the SMF is misconfigured.
2. There are many aspects from HTTP, PHP, ModSecurity, etc., but since you don't know, that shows you probably don't use CWP.
(Why everything that a person says is received be you as an attack? jesus.....)
Every thing that you said is software that is IN THE SERVER/OS. Is not related with the control panel used.
You don't even need a panel to use apache, nginx, ModSecurity (but as you make yourself as the only expert, and everyone else is dumb... you already know that).
You can update and customize every single one of that piece of software in ANY server. Even in servers without ANY panel.
Just because CWP "works" when you change something that doesn't say nothing. Every single panel out there also continue to work.
But of course, if was develop to a version X, and you change yourself to version Y, something can or will break... The same thing can happen with CWP also.
3. Yup. You are just a BS poster, @overseer and myself provide a majority of help here.
And I was talking about offering help to CWP also.
All you seem to be doing is posting hate without knowing how CWP really works via GUI and CLI.
And you don't see a issue there? Two members, that are not even in the development team of this panel, are the ONLY THING that still support the community?
And the support is done by guides of "mods/hacks" that are needed to update software that SHOULD BE the developement team of CWP to update?
If you cannot see the issue here, you are completly blind.
"All you seem to be doing is posting hate"
No dude. Hate is someone post a topic about alternatives to CWP, and your "help" is ALWAYS and MORE THAT ONE TIME being toxic and only say: move to another panel.
Just look at your FIRST REPLY here.
Take the point: only you and another one of the users are the "CWP envangelist" and deny that calling everyone else "haters".
EVERY SINGLE OTHER USER at least acknowledge that there are issues with CWP - and IS FINE have issues, is with them that projects evolve!
And provide valid feedbacks and try to help to make CWP better.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by Andrew C on January 13, 2026, 01:58:37 PM »A Community Perspective on CWP: What’s Working and What Could Improve
I’ve been using CWP (Control Web Panel) for some time now and I want to start by saying that I genuinely like the CWP feature set. It offers a lot of functionality at a very competitive price point and for many users it remains a solid alternative in the server control panel space.
That said, like many others in the community, I believe there are a few areas where CWP could improve—particularly around communication and transparency.
Better Visibility Into Changes and Updates
One of the biggest improvements I’d like to see is a consistently updated changelog after each release. Having a clear, detailed record of what has changed would help users understand new features, bug fixes, and potential impacts on their systems. It also builds trust when users can easily review what’s been modified.
Along similar lines, it would be great to see core services such as Apache, Nginx, MariaDB and other major components updated in a timely manner, especially when older versions become obsolete or reach end-of-life. Staying current is important not just for features, but for security and long-term stability.
Stronger Communication With the Community
Another recurring pain point is communication. When the forum goes down, for example, it would be extremely helpful to see official forum announcements explaining why, even if it’s just a brief status update.
More broadly, I think many users would appreciate regular announcements from the CWP development team about:
* What they are currently working on
* Known issues or outages
* Problems encountered during development
* Estimated timelines where possible
This doesn’t need to be overly detailed—just enough to keep the community informed and reassured.
Avoiding Community “Ghosting”
CWP is a product supported by a paying user base. When users are actively making payments that help keep the product alive, it’s discouraging to feel like the community is being ghosted during periods of silence. Even short updates can go a long way toward maintaining goodwill and confidence in the platform.
A Simple Ask From the Community
Ultimately, I don’t think these requests are unreasonable. Most people in the CWP community who enjoy using the product aren’t asking for perfection—we’re just asking for a bit more visibility into what’s going on behind the scenes.
Clear communication, timely updates, and basic transparency would strengthen the relationship between the development team and the community, and help ensure CWP continues to grow and improve with user trust intact.
CWP has strong potential, and with better communication, it could be even better.
I’ve been using CWP (Control Web Panel) for some time now and I want to start by saying that I genuinely like the CWP feature set. It offers a lot of functionality at a very competitive price point and for many users it remains a solid alternative in the server control panel space.
That said, like many others in the community, I believe there are a few areas where CWP could improve—particularly around communication and transparency.
Better Visibility Into Changes and Updates
One of the biggest improvements I’d like to see is a consistently updated changelog after each release. Having a clear, detailed record of what has changed would help users understand new features, bug fixes, and potential impacts on their systems. It also builds trust when users can easily review what’s been modified.
Along similar lines, it would be great to see core services such as Apache, Nginx, MariaDB and other major components updated in a timely manner, especially when older versions become obsolete or reach end-of-life. Staying current is important not just for features, but for security and long-term stability.
Stronger Communication With the Community
Another recurring pain point is communication. When the forum goes down, for example, it would be extremely helpful to see official forum announcements explaining why, even if it’s just a brief status update.
More broadly, I think many users would appreciate regular announcements from the CWP development team about:
* What they are currently working on
* Known issues or outages
* Problems encountered during development
* Estimated timelines where possible
This doesn’t need to be overly detailed—just enough to keep the community informed and reassured.
Avoiding Community “Ghosting”
CWP is a product supported by a paying user base. When users are actively making payments that help keep the product alive, it’s discouraging to feel like the community is being ghosted during periods of silence. Even short updates can go a long way toward maintaining goodwill and confidence in the platform.
A Simple Ask From the Community
Ultimately, I don’t think these requests are unreasonable. Most people in the CWP community who enjoy using the product aren’t asking for perfection—we’re just asking for a bit more visibility into what’s going on behind the scenes.
Clear communication, timely updates, and basic transparency would strengthen the relationship between the development team and the community, and help ensure CWP continues to grow and improve with user trust intact.
CWP has strong potential, and with better communication, it could be even better.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by Starburst on January 13, 2026, 01:49:48 PM »
I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.
Where is the source of this information?
There is multiple affirmations like this made from you, but no source to confirm this.
And i doubt that is that answer, since the issue is clearly because of misconfigured server where the forum is - many times there is Nginx errors. And just look in how outdated and with MANY errors this installation of SMF have - you cannot even enter a user profile.CWP isn't without flaws, but compared to other panels, CWP can be updated/customized better than others on the market I've tested.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.
Can you provide any example of what are you talking?
"customized" like what?Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.
Your "help" was "But by all means move to cPanel...". I am quoting YOU.
Of course your help is turned down - not because you are the victim, but because you didn't provide any help really.
1. The source of that information is directly from CWP via a support ticket I submitted.
You can doubt whatever you want, but that is the answer I received form them.
Only real problem with the forums is an expired SSL.
2. There are many aspects from HTTP, PHP, ModSecurity, etc., but since you don't know, that shows you probably don't use CWP.
3. Yup. You are just a BS poster, @overseer and myself provide a majority of help here.
And I was talking about offering help to CWP also.
All you seem to be doing is posting hate without knowing how CWP really works via GUI and CLI.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by djprmf on January 13, 2026, 01:36:37 PM »
I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.
Where is the source of this information?
There is multiple affirmations like this made from you, but no source to confirm this.
And i doubt that is that answer, since the issue is clearly because of misconfigured server where the forum is - many times there is Nginx errors. And just look in how outdated and with MANY errors this installation of SMF have - you cannot even enter a user profile.
CWP isn't without flaws, but compared to other panels, CWP can be updated/customized better than others on the market I've tested.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.
Can you provide any example of what are you talking?
"customized" like what?
Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.
Your "help" was "But by all means move to cPanel...". I am quoting YOU.
Of course your help is turned down - not because you are the victim, but because you didn't provide any help really.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by Starburst on January 13, 2026, 12:38:04 PM »CWP isn't without flaws, but compared to other panels, CWP can be updated/customized better than others on the market I've tested.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.
Just look at my PHP thread on updates.
I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.
But since you hate CWP so much, and like Ubuntu/Debian you can use your CloudPanel, and leave CWP...
Or use HestiaCP.
If you switch to either I would recommend using Debian for production use.
As using Ubuntu would be like using Fedora.
Neither uses ELx, and doesn't have some of the features of CWP.
It's as simple as that...
Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.
That is what's nice about CWP, you can update certain components without breaking the control panel, just like you can with Webmin/Virtualmin.
Just look at my PHP thread on updates.
I agree, the forums being down for hours and sometime days is very annoying.
CWP claims it's due to Layer 7 DDoS attacks.
But since you hate CWP so much, and like Ubuntu/Debian you can use your CloudPanel, and leave CWP...
Or use HestiaCP.
If you switch to either I would recommend using Debian for production use.
As using Ubuntu would be like using Fedora.
Neither uses ELx, and doesn't have some of the features of CWP.
It's as simple as that...
Not sure about anyone else, but I've offered to help, but have been turned down.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by djprmf on January 13, 2026, 10:18:45 AM »Starburst have great tutorials here, and is doing a great work to an extent.
But when a software starts to get "mods/hacks" from someone just to use updated features or something - not official - then something is wrong. Starburst - and some other users here - are in denial about the future and only answer is being toxic to any critic or negative feedback made against CWP...
Check any topic where is any negative feedback against CWP: i bet that every one of them will be toxic. Os just look to the first reply in this topic: "go to another panel"... And if you confront them, then you are the "bad guy".
Just the fact that the support forum is constantly down for hours - an issue with MONTHS - proves somethings.. But CWP envagelists will say that "is normal", or "go to other panel".
You are asking a legit question and your post is not toxic at all: what are the alternatives to CWP.
There are many. In the free side, you have HestiaCP, VestaCP, cloudpanel, cyberpanel, aapanel or froxlor. Are some examples. The "best" will vary from user to user and from your needs.
If you just need some WordPress sites, cloudpanel is the best in my opinion. For something else, maybe HestiaCP.
Or you can continue to use CWP, if there is some features that really are needed and if you can bare with the lack of updates.
But when a software starts to get "mods/hacks" from someone just to use updated features or something - not official - then something is wrong. Starburst - and some other users here - are in denial about the future and only answer is being toxic to any critic or negative feedback made against CWP...
Check any topic where is any negative feedback against CWP: i bet that every one of them will be toxic. Os just look to the first reply in this topic: "go to another panel"... And if you confront them, then you are the "bad guy".
Just the fact that the support forum is constantly down for hours - an issue with MONTHS - proves somethings.. But CWP envagelists will say that "is normal", or "go to other panel".
You are asking a legit question and your post is not toxic at all: what are the alternatives to CWP.
There are many. In the free side, you have HestiaCP, VestaCP, cloudpanel, cyberpanel, aapanel or froxlor. Are some examples. The "best" will vary from user to user and from your needs.
If you just need some WordPress sites, cloudpanel is the best in my opinion. For something else, maybe HestiaCP.
Or you can continue to use CWP, if there is some features that really are needed and if you can bare with the lack of updates.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by kandalf on January 13, 2026, 09:59:02 AM »I don't understand why Starburst is being so rude about it.
If we're talking about the elephant in the room, it's because we like CWP, we use CWP, and we care about its future. But in recent years it's really struggling: no new features, a barely working forum, an outdated website, no tips or news about server management. The best tutorials are the ones from Starburst.
I'm actively looking for alternatives. I like CWP because it has many features, I have a good incremental backup system on my servers, the pro version is cheap, and I have custom webserver templates for Laravel and other stacks.
But I'm also testing other panels on a test server because I'm afraid CWP will let me down in the near future. I know there are others in my situation. What are the best alternatives to CWP?
If we're talking about the elephant in the room, it's because we like CWP, we use CWP, and we care about its future. But in recent years it's really struggling: no new features, a barely working forum, an outdated website, no tips or news about server management. The best tutorials are the ones from Starburst.
I'm actively looking for alternatives. I like CWP because it has many features, I have a good incremental backup system on my servers, the pro version is cheap, and I have custom webserver templates for Laravel and other stacks.
But I'm also testing other panels on a test server because I'm afraid CWP will let me down in the near future. I know there are others in my situation. What are the best alternatives to CWP?
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by djprmf on January 12, 2026, 09:17:09 PM »
Stop posting hate, and you won't get 'toxic' answers...
CWP 0.9.8.1220 came out on 2025-12-29 with minor bug fixes and updates to the latest PHP 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3 versions.
Fine, then PLEASE STOP using CWP and go use another panel...
BYE FELICIA...
"CWP 0.9.8.1220 came out on 2025-12-29 with minor bug fixes and updates to the latest PHP 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3 versions."
Kindle provide the source where you get that information of what change.
"Fine, then PLEASE STOP using CWP and go use another panel..."
Or just don't use a panel. You don't need one.
But in how that answer the questions made or help CWP? If CWP don't have users - or is just one or two - it will die even faster.
Your only answer being this is damaging the project, not the community making questions and observations - being them valid or not in your point of view.
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Updates / Re: Is CWP dead? Looking for alternatives
« Last post by djprmf on January 12, 2026, 09:13:09 PM »Many panels don't publish about their 'Critical security' issues.
I haven't seen cPanel do it (Not that I pay much attention to them), but neither does CyberPanel (Even though reports of the flaws get posted all over, CyberPanel doesn't respond), ApisCP, and many others I have tried & used.
That is NOT TRUE.
Cpanel changelog with security updates also disclosed:
https://docs.cpanel.net/release-notes/release-notes/
Cyberpanel changelog with security updates also disclosed:
https://cyberpanel.net/KnowledgeBase/home/change-logs/
ApisCP Changelog - and you can see all the source code of what really change
https://gitlab.com/apisnetworks/apnscp/-/tags
I'm hoping CWP is working on EL10, but they seem stuck on still supporting Past EOL OS's like CentOS 7.
As long as they do this, CWP is going to be stuck, as EL9 and even EL10 operate differently from CentOS 7 / EL8.
Even EL10 operate differently than EL9 with different security.
There is NO POINT in support dead OS's, and CWP is not "supporting them". Is just providing a panel to manage the services better, not "supporting" the old EOL system. They are EOL, and for many updates that you provide to the panel, there is NO WAY that will improve security or provide better experience. And That is the point that many CWP evangelists don't see - CWP is a panel, not a OS.
CWP only provides simple management of the server, not a complete system.
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